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		<title>Comment on Usability in libraries and beyond by Terry Simpkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/11/usability-in-libraries-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-7391</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Simpkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an article about Infomaki at:
http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/2099</description>
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		<title>Comment on Curricular Technology website by Alex Chapin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/curricular-technology-website/comment-page-1/#comment-7351</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Chapin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brenda, Arabella and Jess for feedback on the current IA for the Curricular Technology portion of the new LIS website.&#160; It seems none of you like the terms &quot;Uses&quot; and &quot;Tools.&quot;&#160; Our goal for the site as a whole was to basically answer the question, &quot;What should I use to do X?&quot;.&#160;&#160; To achieve this goal, we made lists of both the answers to this question and the values for X. We assumed the answers would be &quot;tools&quot; (i.e. software or hardware) and X would be the &quot;uses.&quot;&#160; But I do see the ambiguity...&#160; For example, where do you go to find out how to &quot;use&quot; a &quot;tool&quot;? or how a &quot;tool&quot; can be &quot;used&quot;? &quot;Uses&quot; or &quot;Tools&quot;?&#160; 

I think we assumed most people would go to the &quot;Uses&quot; section to find out how to use technology to &quot;do something,&quot; to achieve some goal, objective, purpose... and from there would be directed to specific tool(s) for &quot;doing that thing,&quot; &quot;achieving that goal or objective&quot; (see: &lt;a title=&quot;record/edit/format audio&quot; href=&quot;http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/uses/audio/audio_editing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;record/edit/format audio&lt;/a&gt;).&#160; I think we further assumed that people would only go to the &quot;Tools&quot; section if they wanted to learn more about a particular tool.&#160; From there, they would find links to the &quot;Uses&quot; section showing how a given tool can be used (see: &lt;a title=&quot;Audacity&quot; href=&quot;http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/tools/audacity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Audacity&lt;/a&gt;).&#160; Throughout, we wanted to keep it as simple as possible, avoiding overly techie/edu-greek language, but maybe the navigation terms are too simple...

We hoped to be able to have a fairly complete list of all the ways to using technology for teaching and learning.&#160; We came up with nearly 60 different ways of using technology which we then tried to organize into categories.&#160; I see the case for combining &quot;Data Collection and Analysis&quot; with &quot;Research.&quot; I think coming up with a definitive taxonomy of technology uses is a daunting task...&#160; I welcome more feedback in this area.&#160; Difficult too has been finding ways to &quot;label&quot; technology uses in a way that &quot;describes&quot; the use succinctly enough that it can be discovered in a list...

Thanks again for feedback. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brenda, Arabella and Jess for feedback on the current IA for the Curricular Technology portion of the new LIS website.&nbsp; It seems none of you like the terms &#8220;Uses&#8221; and &#8220;Tools.&#8221;&nbsp; Our goal for the site as a whole was to basically answer the question, &#8220;What should I use to do X?&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp; To achieve this goal, we made lists of both the answers to this question and the values for X. We assumed the answers would be &#8220;tools&#8221; (i.e. software or hardware) and X would be the &#8220;uses.&#8221;&nbsp; But I do see the ambiguity&#8230;&nbsp; For example, where do you go to find out how to &#8220;use&#8221; a &#8220;tool&#8221;? or how a &#8220;tool&#8221; can be &#8220;used&#8221;? &#8220;Uses&#8221; or &#8220;Tools&#8221;?&nbsp; </p>
<p>I think we assumed most people would go to the &#8220;Uses&#8221; section to find out how to use technology to &#8220;do something,&#8221; to achieve some goal, objective, purpose&#8230; and from there would be directed to specific tool(s) for &#8220;doing that thing,&#8221; &#8220;achieving that goal or objective&#8221; (see: <a title="record/edit/format audio" href="http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/uses/audio/audio_editing" rel="nofollow">record/edit/format audio</a>).&nbsp; I think we further assumed that people would only go to the &#8220;Tools&#8221; section if they wanted to learn more about a particular tool.&nbsp; From there, they would find links to the &#8220;Uses&#8221; section showing how a given tool can be used (see: <a title="Audacity" href="http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/tools/audacity" rel="nofollow">Audacity</a>).&nbsp; Throughout, we wanted to keep it as simple as possible, avoiding overly techie/edu-greek language, but maybe the navigation terms are too simple&#8230;</p>
<p>We hoped to be able to have a fairly complete list of all the ways to using technology for teaching and learning.&nbsp; We came up with nearly 60 different ways of using technology which we then tried to organize into categories.&nbsp; I see the case for combining &#8220;Data Collection and Analysis&#8221; with &#8220;Research.&#8221; I think coming up with a definitive taxonomy of technology uses is a daunting task&#8230;&nbsp; I welcome more feedback in this area.&nbsp; Difficult too has been finding ways to &#8220;label&#8221; technology uses in a way that &#8220;describes&#8221; the use succinctly enough that it can be discovered in a list&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks again for feedback.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by Michael Roy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-7151</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we are budgeting time for usability testing, let&#039;s be sure to test out various options and see which actual users prefer!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Curricular Technology website by Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/curricular-technology-website/comment-page-1/#comment-7101</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jess - I agree about the consistency of the left-hand nav - we&#039;ll see what the team says.  Arabella - the sheet music placement is tricky.  We weren&#039;t sure where else to put it.  Brenda - thanks for the suggestion about the right-hand content after the first level.  

Thanks for the comments - the team will discuss these and continue to add content.  Feel free to add additional comments at any time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jess &#8211; I agree about the consistency of the left-hand nav &#8211; we&#8217;ll see what the team says.  Arabella &#8211; the sheet music placement is tricky.  We weren&#8217;t sure where else to put it.  Brenda &#8211; thanks for the suggestion about the right-hand content after the first level.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments &#8211; the team will discuss these and continue to add content.  Feel free to add additional comments at any time!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by Richard Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-7011</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contact Information -- Would it look awkward to label this &quot;Contact/Departments&quot; or something similar to satisfy both sides?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contact Information &#8212; Would it look awkward to label this &#8220;Contact/Departments&#8221; or something similar to satisfy both sides?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by jtoth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-6761</link>
		<dc:creator>jtoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Library Departments: &quot;Contact&quot; is fine with me if quick access is what you want. If you use contact, however, you must have an exhaustive list of all possible points of contact, as &quot;contacting is what you&#039;re facilitating. When you list departments, you limit the list to what you&#039;re defining as departments.

2. Library Collections: You bring the problem of having 11 entries on yourselves by confusing libraries and collections. To students, campus libraries are places to go to for specific materials or to study in specific locations. Collections are subsets of the information resources we have on hand, usually noted by subject and/or format (i.e. Vermont, Postcards, Flanders Ballads, etc). Rid yourselves of one or the other in this category, and don&#039;t feel you have to be exhaustive with collections. Why, for instance, must we single out gov docs? The government is merely one publisher--albeit a large one--among many that offer materials on subjects in the general collection.

3. I&#039;d like to see an &quot;About Us&quot; link on the left side that offers org info on LIS and the library. It&#039;d be like the link we all use when we go to other library pages, as some of us do often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Library Departments: &#8220;Contact&#8221; is fine with me if quick access is what you want. If you use contact, however, you must have an exhaustive list of all possible points of contact, as &#8220;contacting is what you&#8217;re facilitating. When you list departments, you limit the list to what you&#8217;re defining as departments.</p>
<p>2. Library Collections: You bring the problem of having 11 entries on yourselves by confusing libraries and collections. To students, campus libraries are places to go to for specific materials or to study in specific locations. Collections are subsets of the information resources we have on hand, usually noted by subject and/or format (i.e. Vermont, Postcards, Flanders Ballads, etc). Rid yourselves of one or the other in this category, and don&#8217;t feel you have to be exhaustive with collections. Why, for instance, must we single out gov docs? The government is merely one publisher&#8211;albeit a large one&#8211;among many that offer materials on subjects in the general collection.</p>
<p>3. I&#8217;d like to see an &#8220;About Us&#8221; link on the left side that offers org info on LIS and the library. It&#8217;d be like the link we all use when we go to other library pages, as some of us do often.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by Arabella</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-6711</link>
		<dc:creator>Arabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brenda about ILL and Reserves being prominent, and I like Terry&#039;s idea of nesting the collections that are held in Main.

I have a comment about the opening paragraph on the &quot;Library Collections&quot; page (I know - you&#039;re not asking about that; too bad).

Currently it says:
&quot;Our collection is particularly strong in languages to support our summer Language School programs. &quot;

The summer LS programs evolved out of an institutional focus on international studies/languages that predates the establishment of the LSs (well-established though they are).  Yes, we get materials for the LSs that we might not get if they weren&#039;t here, but... it&#039;s kind of a chicken-and-egg thing.  Regardless, I think it would be better to state something more inclusive of language teaching than just the summer LSs.  One possibility:

&quot;Our collection is particularly strong in languages to support Middlebury College&#039;s focus on international and cross-cultural studies.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brenda about ILL and Reserves being prominent, and I like Terry&#8217;s idea of nesting the collections that are held in Main.</p>
<p>I have a comment about the opening paragraph on the &#8220;Library Collections&#8221; page (I know &#8211; you&#8217;re not asking about that; too bad).</p>
<p>Currently it says:<br />
&#8220;Our collection is particularly strong in languages to support our summer Language School programs. &#8221;</p>
<p>The summer LS programs evolved out of an institutional focus on international studies/languages that predates the establishment of the LSs (well-established though they are).  Yes, we get materials for the LSs that we might not get if they weren&#8217;t here, but&#8230; it&#8217;s kind of a chicken-and-egg thing.  Regardless, I think it would be better to state something more inclusive of language teaching than just the summer LSs.  One possibility:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our collection is particularly strong in languages to support Middlebury College&#8217;s focus on international and cross-cultural studies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by Jess Isler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-6701</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Isler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brenda Re: Collections page arrangement. I think on this page it would make sense to have the subpages listed in a &quot;subpage list&quot; right in the middle of the page (see CT page for an example: http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/uses) This way you&#039;d take care of the nesting issues and subpage nav. depth issues all at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brenda Re: Collections page arrangement. I think on this page it would make sense to have the subpages listed in a &#8220;subpage list&#8221; right in the middle of the page (see CT page for an example: <a href="http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/uses)" rel="nofollow">http://midd2.middlebury.edu/offices/technology/ct/uses)</a> This way you&#8217;d take care of the nesting issues and subpage nav. depth issues all at once.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by Brenda</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-6681</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I prefer leaving it as Library Departments.  Users aren&#039;t always looking for contact info. and they may have something specific in mind like reserves, ILL, so they are looking for those terms or a close approximation (departments).  They may be looking for documentation, policies, structure, etc.  I&#039;d rather see a Contact Us as a separate page that gives a general phone and email and then a most frequently requested (Reserves, ILL, Circulation, Research Assistance/Ask a Librarian and a link to Departments or the Directory for more additional contact info.  If you&#039;d really like to combine the two, then label it Departments and Contacts.

On a related note, I don&#039;t know what you intend for the center of the page, but I think we absolutely need a link for Reserves and ILL front and center on the main page.  You have Borrowing on the side menu but not Reserves or ILL.  I think the latter two are even more heavily sought - all 3 need to be on the front page.

As for Collections, I&#039;m not satisfied with the arrangement.  I completely agree that we should reduce the nesting.  In fact I think we should reduce it even more.   If I&#039;m looking for special collections, I should  be able to click on Collections and not have to click on a 2nd &quot;Collections&quot; - it should be right there on the page and I prefer to see all this info in the center of the page, not just in the sidebar menu.  Why not simply expand out the hierarchy on the page itself so that users would see Main Library as a heading, and underneath that each collection listed, then below that Armstrong Science Library and highlight anything special like Map collection and so forth.  I don&#039;t think we need the middle of the main collections page devoted to a long general description in large print.  I&#039;d rather see the first part of the description you have in regular sized font with ..more (like users are accustomed to with blog posts) and then each library or collection listed and described similarly.  Also get rid of the right side bar stuff at this level - its taking up real estate and forcing everything to have to be on subplages.  You could put library hours and Ask a librarian in the left menu (but keep them in the right menu for the main Library page).  That or make it part of a header that goes across the top page of all pages.  I just hate having subpages crammed into tiny space.

Also, new users have no idea what Davison library is or William Tell.  Spell it out like you did for Armstrong.  Thus Davison (Breadloaf) library, and William Tell (Monterey) library.  Brand New users still might not know what Breadloaf is but within a few weeks our new students, faculty and staff will have heard of Breadloaf, while you&#039;d easily find seniors who have no clue what Davison is or William Tell.

I can explain all this better in person.  Stop in!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I prefer leaving it as Library Departments.  Users aren&#8217;t always looking for contact info. and they may have something specific in mind like reserves, ILL, so they are looking for those terms or a close approximation (departments).  They may be looking for documentation, policies, structure, etc.  I&#8217;d rather see a Contact Us as a separate page that gives a general phone and email and then a most frequently requested (Reserves, ILL, Circulation, Research Assistance/Ask a Librarian and a link to Departments or the Directory for more additional contact info.  If you&#8217;d really like to combine the two, then label it Departments and Contacts.</p>
<p>On a related note, I don&#8217;t know what you intend for the center of the page, but I think we absolutely need a link for Reserves and ILL front and center on the main page.  You have Borrowing on the side menu but not Reserves or ILL.  I think the latter two are even more heavily sought &#8211; all 3 need to be on the front page.</p>
<p>As for Collections, I&#8217;m not satisfied with the arrangement.  I completely agree that we should reduce the nesting.  In fact I think we should reduce it even more.   If I&#8217;m looking for special collections, I should  be able to click on Collections and not have to click on a 2nd &#8220;Collections&#8221; &#8211; it should be right there on the page and I prefer to see all this info in the center of the page, not just in the sidebar menu.  Why not simply expand out the hierarchy on the page itself so that users would see Main Library as a heading, and underneath that each collection listed, then below that Armstrong Science Library and highlight anything special like Map collection and so forth.  I don&#8217;t think we need the middle of the main collections page devoted to a long general description in large print.  I&#8217;d rather see the first part of the description you have in regular sized font with ..more (like users are accustomed to with blog posts) and then each library or collection listed and described similarly.  Also get rid of the right side bar stuff at this level &#8211; its taking up real estate and forcing everything to have to be on subplages.  You could put library hours and Ask a librarian in the left menu (but keep them in the right menu for the main Library page).  That or make it part of a header that goes across the top page of all pages.  I just hate having subpages crammed into tiny space.</p>
<p>Also, new users have no idea what Davison library is or William Tell.  Spell it out like you did for Armstrong.  Thus Davison (Breadloaf) library, and William Tell (Monterey) library.  Brand New users still might not know what Breadloaf is but within a few weeks our new students, faculty and staff will have heard of Breadloaf, while you&#8217;d easily find seniors who have no clue what Davison is or William Tell.</p>
<p>I can explain all this better in person.  Stop in!  <img src='http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Changes to left-hand menu in new (draft!) library site by Terry Simpkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.middlebury.edu/lis/2009/11/19/changes-to-left-hand-menu-in-new-draft-library-site/comment-page-1/#comment-6671</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Simpkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carrie
1) I like the change in name to Contact Us.  Makes sense to me, and sounds less bureaucratic than &quot;Library Departments&quot;
2) I like the changes to Lib Collections in theory better than in the actual mock up.  My suggestion would be more like this
-LIBRARY COLLECTIONS
---MAIN LIBRARY
------COLLEGE ARCHIVES
------GOV DOCS
------SPECIAL COLLECTIONS
------VT 
------DIG
---ARMSTRONG
---MUSIC
---DAVISON
---WILLIAM TELL
---OTHER COLLECTIONS ON CAMPUS

In other words (in case the formatting gets screwed up in this post), to nest the specific collections (archives, etc.) under Main Library, which is where they actually live.  (I know: &quot;Dig&quot; doesn&#039;t really live anywhere, but the work is done mostly in Main).

It just seems a little weird to me to list a bunch of branches and then list &quot;Collections&quot; separately on the same level.

T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carrie<br />
1) I like the change in name to Contact Us.  Makes sense to me, and sounds less bureaucratic than &#8220;Library Departments&#8221;<br />
2) I like the changes to Lib Collections in theory better than in the actual mock up.  My suggestion would be more like this<br />
-LIBRARY COLLECTIONS<br />
&#8212;MAIN LIBRARY<br />
&#8212;&#8212;COLLEGE ARCHIVES<br />
&#8212;&#8212;GOV DOCS<br />
&#8212;&#8212;SPECIAL COLLECTIONS<br />
&#8212;&#8212;VT<br />
&#8212;&#8212;DIG<br />
&#8212;ARMSTRONG<br />
&#8212;MUSIC<br />
&#8212;DAVISON<br />
&#8212;WILLIAM TELL<br />
&#8212;OTHER COLLECTIONS ON CAMPUS</p>
<p>In other words (in case the formatting gets screwed up in this post), to nest the specific collections (archives, etc.) under Main Library, which is where they actually live.  (I know: &#8220;Dig&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really live anywhere, but the work is done mostly in Main).</p>
<p>It just seems a little weird to me to list a bunch of branches and then list &#8220;Collections&#8221; separately on the same level.</p>
<p>T</p>
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